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Skyhaven Elementary School to close - 2011 edition
« on: March 09, 2010, 08:17 am »
Skyhaven made both short lists.   :([

DeKalb County will consider closing four south-end elementary schools to help meet the district's anticipated budget deficit.
Late Monday, two lists of possible closures were made available:
• Sky Haven on Sky Haven Road in Atlanta, Gresham Park on Vicki Lane in Atlanta, Midway on Midway Road in Decatur and Kelley Lake on Kelley Lake Road in Decatur;
• Sky Haven, Meadowview on Wee Kirk Road in Atlanta, Toney on Oakland Terrace in Decatur and Peachcrest on Joy Lane in Decatur.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2011, 10:36 am by hfranks »
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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2010, 08:32 am »
That's probably a good thing, no? Will mcnair be the recipient?

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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2010, 08:33 am »
That sucks. If they close Gresham, I guess those kids would go down to Clifton or over to Flat Shoals. Either way (including Gresham), it would be too bad for the neighborhood. I see a lot of kids walking home from school.

I wonder if there's enough momentum to take the Sky Haven campus as a Charter effort if it closes. I believe there is a new law that requires systems to make closed schools available free of charge. Uni. DeKalb really needs some options to keep people around once they have kids.
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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2010, 11:03 am »
That sucks. If they close Gresham, I guess those kids would go down to Clifton or over to Flat Shoals. Either way (including Gresham), it would be too bad for the neighborhood. I see a lot of kids walking home from school.

I wonder if there's enough momentum to take the Sky Haven campus as a Charter effort if it closes. I believe there is a new law that requires systems to make closed schools available free of charge. Uni. DeKalb really needs some options to keep people around once they have kids.

I noticed that the school that had been closed on Fayetteville (wanna say Terry Mill?) has a sign up about it being an Elementary School of the Arts?

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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2010, 09:39 pm »
Wow! All the proposed schools mentioned are in the same general area (30316 and 30032)

http://www.ajc.com/news/proposed-school-closures-divide-359026.html?cxtype=rss_news_128746

Proposed school closures divide DeKalb

By Megan Matteucci

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
9:17 p.m. Tuesday, March 9, 2010

DeKalb County parents quickly drew battle lines Tuesday night, upset that schools being considered for closure under the county's budget crunch are in primarily poor, African-American neighborhoods.

A standing-room only crowd that filled a school cafeteria listened to the 20-member Citizens Planning Task Force, which is charged with recommending four elementary schools to be closed at the end of the school year.

The closures are to be based on low enrollments and are needed to help with an $88-million deficit, school officials said.

Late Monday, school administrators gave the task force two scenarios that included a total of seven target schools, all of which are in the south end of the county. Those schools include: Sky Haven, Gresham Park, Kelley Lake, Toney, Meadowview, Midway and Peachcrest.

In Tuesday's meeting at the William Bradley Bryant Technology Center in Decatur, task force members said they were disappointed that they were not charged with choosing the schools on the list.

“No one on this panel had anything to do with the schools on there. It started with staff," task force member Bruce McMillian said. "I’m not going to let this panel be a scapegoat or whatever you want to call it for these tough decisions.

"The pocket that has been targeted by the school system is an area that, I feel, is an area of least resistance. The affluent areas in the county, the ones with the higher tax base, none of those are being targeted.”

The meeting at times grew loud and officials threatened to have one shouting father removed. Other residents became angry that not everyone could speak. Some alleged racism, referencing the district’s troubled history.

“I can understand you wanting to close some of the schools and help balance the budget. But you’re closing three schools around me,” said Cora Cooper, whose children went to Gresham Park and whose grandchildren currently go there. “That means the kids will have to go out of the neighborhood to get a quality education, just like they did in the 70s.”

Task force member Darrell Jennings Sr. said he plans to look at the enrollment of all 83 elementary schools before making any decision. The choice should be made based on how the closures will impact the community in terms of social justice, economic development and property values, he said.

“I just object to all these schools being closed in my backyard,” he said. “They gave us a list of 23 schools and 19 of those schools are in south DeKalb.”

But with less than a month left before a recommendation is due, the task force doesn’t have time to start with a blank slate, said Robert Moseley, the district’s deputy chief superintendent of operations.

“Is it tight? It is very tight. Is it the best and ideal way to do it? No, but we have an urgent budget deficit,” he told the task force. “We’re looking at not just closing schools, but we’re looking under every rock to close that deficit.”

Moseley said state funding favors schools with at least 450 students.

School officials have said closing the four schools will save DeKalb about $2.35 million, but they have not provided financial figures for each individual school.

Task Force member Tracie Scott said she wouldn’t make a recommendation until she sees those numbers.

“I don’t want to be part of helping the school system make another bad decision for our children,” she said. “If we’re going to disrupt people’s communities, I think we need to be able to say this is going to be better for your child.”

For Hanifah Rios, she can’t think of any way closing her two children’s school would benefit their education. Rios said her children have flourished in the Montessori program at Midway Elementary and she fears her children will suffer if they have to be pulled from the program, since no other schools in south DeKalb have the program.

“I thought I could never be able to afford Montessori,” she said. “Because of my schedule, I can’t drive to the north side to get them what they need.”

The task force will meet again March 16 and is expected to have a recommendation by mid-April. The school board will vote on the final closures.
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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2010, 09:52 pm »
I am not sure what the long term planning is for this type of thing.  It seems to be cyclical. Back in the 80's, they closed several elementary schools in North Dekalb due to decreasing enrollment. At the time, those schools were predominately white. Now the school age population has come back and all the schools up there are packed and have trailers.  And they had to spend money  to build a new school since the old school buildings were not available or the County could not be bothered to renovate.

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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2010, 09:55 pm »
Youre right since Dekalb is a cyclical as counties come. So it sure seems like poor planning that will bite us in the keister in 10 years (or less) when all these houses that have been built and renovated over the past 5 years start birthing 5 year olds.
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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2010, 11:24 pm »
I'm wondering if they targeted schools where there is less PTA and family involvement in general. Less of a fight?

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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2010, 11:39 pm »
I'm wondering if they targeted schools where there is less PTA and family involvement in general. Less of a fight?

It's too bad the AJC writer didn't do any sort of analysis of enrollment, but clearly Sky Haven's population has just tanked in the past decade. I assume it's the same for other schools they are looking to close and I imagine the decision is based just on that - where do you have the kids that require the schools?

And it's not much of a logical leap to think that a school with a very active PTA / parental involvement might also not be losing population so quickly.

But the points before about the lack of long-term planning are very true. They'll likely board up Sky Haven; maybe sell the land. Then in 10 years they'll have to pay a fortune for new land and a new building.
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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 12:31 am »
I heard that they are going to build a new high school, and make Northside a middle school. I wish that they would make Skyhaven a middle school, and maybe with less teachers.

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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 10:16 am »
Are you talking about City of Atlanta? SkyHaven is Dekalb County Schools
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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 10:30 am »
Skyhaven is our UDC elementary school, and while I hate to see it closed, I can't say I'm surprised.  The test scores for that school are atrociously bad, and I seem to recall that it is one of the lowest ranked schools in the state.  In other words, easy pickings for school closure since no one is going to scream like they are in other areas of the county.

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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2010, 07:33 pm »
Where would kids who live near Skyhaven be assigned? Not very familiar with other schools in the area, and quite frankly, wasn't really thrilled with sending lil G to Skyhaven for the previously mentioned reasons when he turned 5. Equally unthrilled with the prospect of private school tuition but figured I didn't have much choice.

However, if Skyhaven went charter, that would open up all sorts of possibilities...
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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2010, 08:02 am »
If the school closes, I'd love to see the land developed into new homes. During the summer the basketball court attracts an undesireable crowd. Would the county sit on the land or consider selling?  Seems like if they need money it would make sense to sell.  Plus, what about upkeep?  Who mows once the school closes?

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Re: Skyhaven Elementary School to close
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2010, 09:03 am »
These are legitimate questions and concerns. I've noticed with other scenarios (closed parks, primarily) that the city/county will take down the rims from the basketball goals to essentially take them off the market. Makes sense from an insurance perspective as well; if no one is supposed to be there (shuttered school), remove the temptation for folks to congregate.

I have no idea if the county has thought ahead to make plans for any of these assets once they're closed. Historically, they'll sit on a school for many years; just mothball it and wait to see if things change and it's needed down the road. The real estate is valuable, but it's FAR harder to find a site that large and build a school once you release a parcel of that size/nature.

If it closes and they fall behind on maintenance, we can call the County and make sure they know it needs mowing, etc. Might take some persistence, but it would be worth it.
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