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Offline toriontherun

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Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« on: January 19, 2012, 01:58 pm »
Is anyone having problems with their debit/credit card numbers being stolen that frequents businesses in our area? Most of my purchases are from Grant Park north to Midtown and east to Decatur. My number has been stolen 3 times now in less than nine months. I haven't been able to figure out where it is happening at. Is anyone having this problem and have any ideas on where it is going on at? The fraud department mentioned gas stations as a frequent cause.

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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 02:05 pm »
Do you pay at pump? Have any of the card readers looked funny? 
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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 02:06 pm »
Quit using the debit card and just go get cash out?   :(~

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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 02:12 pm »
Quit using the debit card and just go get cash out?   :(~
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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 02:13 pm »
I always run my debit card as a credit card at gas station pumps.  Would that make a difference?

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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2012, 02:17 pm »
I always run my debit card as a credit card at gas station pumps.  Would that make a difference?

Yes. It's probably why your card hasn't been compromised.
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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2012, 03:39 pm »
I always run my debit card as a credit card at gas station pumps.  Would that make a difference?

No, When your card gets skimmed they'll just see it as a credit card and try to use it as such.
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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2012, 03:43 pm »
So, when you say stolen, are you finding fraudulent purchases?  Or are you receiving notices from your bank that your account information may have been compromised, and that they are sending you a new card?

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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2012, 03:46 pm »
I always run my debit card as a credit card at gas station pumps.  Would that make a difference?

No, When your card gets skimmed they'll just see it as a credit card and try to use it as such.

I thought there was a lower threshold for making use of a debit card when you could snag the pin vs using a cc. I may be wrong.
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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2012, 03:53 pm »
I always run my debit card as a credit card at gas station pumps.  Would that make a difference?

No, When your card gets skimmed they'll just see it as a credit card and try to use it as such.

I thought there was a lower threshold for making use of a debit card when you could snag the pin vs using a cc. I may be wrong.

nope.  Only difference at the POS is weather you capture a PIN to send with the transaction or not.  And at gas pumps anymore if you run a card as credit you have to capture a zip code to go with it. 

There are different rules for different industries as far as what needs to go with a transaction, but the only difference between credit and debit at the POS is the PIN.
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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 04:20 pm »
I always run my debit card as a credit card at gas station pumps.  Would that make a difference?

No, When your card gets skimmed they'll just see it as a credit card and try to use it as such.

I thought there was a lower threshold for making use of a debit card when you could snag the pin vs using a cc. I may be wrong.

nope.  Only difference at the POS is weather you capture a PIN to send with the transaction or not.  And at gas pumps anymore if you run a card as credit you have to capture a zip code to go with it. 

There are different rules for different industries as far as what needs to go with a transaction, but the only difference between credit and debit at the POS is the PIN.

gotcha. Thanks for helping un-dumbass me a bit on the topic.  :)
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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 05:19 pm »
I always run my debit card as a credit card at gas station pumps.  Would that make a difference?

No, When your card gets skimmed they'll just see it as a credit card and try to use it as such.

I thought there was a lower threshold for making use of a debit card when you could snag the pin vs using a cc. I may be wrong.

nope.  Only difference at the POS is weather you capture a PIN to send with the transaction or not.  And at gas pumps anymore if you run a card as credit you have to capture a zip code to go with it. 

There are different rules for different industries as far as what needs to go with a transaction, but the only difference between credit and debit at the POS is the PIN.

I'm not entirely sure about that. When it's run as a credit it actually has to go thru visa/mastercard. I've had fraudulent gas purchases that were bought as credit flagged and fixed before I ever even knew they happened. Debit gets compromised and the cash is already gone, you may or may not get it back. (at least in my experience, ymmv)

But to the OP's point, I was just speaking this morning with another EAVer (who I don't think is on the Buzz, but I guess I could be wrong?) who was complaining her card got hacked this week too.

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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 05:37 pm »
Other than unknowingly swiping your card in a fake reader, your numbers are either being stolen when you hand your card to someone at a restaurant/bar and it leaves your line of sight.  Shopping online is a given risk.  Also, RFID wireless chip readers can take your numbers from your wallet without even touching it. 

http://www.kdvr.com/news/kdvr-coloradans-more-likely-to-be-victims-of-electronic-pickpocketing-20110224,0,4065996.story

http://youtu.be/V3pElQD8UZg

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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 06:01 pm »
I always run my debit card as a credit card at gas station pumps.  Would that make a difference?

No, When your card gets skimmed they'll just see it as a credit card and try to use it as such.

I thought there was a lower threshold for making use of a debit card when you could snag the pin vs using a cc. I may be wrong.

nope.  Only difference at the POS is weather you capture a PIN to send with the transaction or not.  And at gas pumps anymore if you run a card as credit you have to capture a zip code to go with it. 

There are different rules for different industries as far as what needs to go with a transaction, but the only difference between credit and debit at the POS is the PIN.

I'm not entirely sure about that. When it's run as a credit it actually has to go thru visa/mastercard. I've had fraudulent gas purchases that were bought as credit flagged and fixed before I ever even knew they happened. Debit gets compromised and the cash is already gone, you may or may not get it back. (at least in my experience, ymmv)

But to the OP's point, I was just speaking this morning with another EAVer (who I don't think is on the Buzz, but I guess I could be wrong?) who was complaining her card got hacked this week too.

Credit and debit cards are all authorized the same way thru the same processor.  Whatever processor is being used (Nabanco, Equifax, Global Payments  :O< , etc).  Debit cards are issued as Visa or MC depending on who the issuing bank has a relationship with and are treated the same way.  Only difference being if at settlement money is taken from your account or the banks. 

When I used to do development for a hotel software company I rewrote all their credit card processing stuff and dealt with all of the various authorization clearinghouses - and mostly they seriously SUCK!!!!  CC or debit doesn't matter, you wouldn't believe how much gets fucked up and fixed before you ever know about it.  You have the same protection with debit or credit, fraudulent charges will be refunded, but there's a big difference to you whether it's the money from your bank account that is missing or the issuing banks money missing until refunded.

I worked at Global Payments last year and walked out of the job the place was so fucked up.  Worst job I've ever had in my life, poorly run beyond my wildest imagination, constant firefighting due to the completely fucked up infrastructure and PISS POOR code!!!  Truly frightening that they are in any way involved in financial transactions.
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Re: Debit Card number keeps getting stolen
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 08:43 pm »
oh that's so funny! I know someone who works at another of their locations doing a different job and she also walked out!
but thanks for clearing that up, all I knew was in one case the money was never "gone" and in the other, it was.