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[Cap'n Ken]

Is anyone considering doing a survey of parking, including residential streets nearby, of EAV?  This does seem like an important issue.

Seems to be the biggest problem - nobody (save for Ed Gilgor, who I'm sure has all sorts of parking information stored in his brain) has apparently ever done this. Or at least the information does not seem to be available if it's been done.

There should be an inventory of lot and street spaces, a count of spaces in use at various times, an accounting for the parking needs of existing businesses and maximum parking needs if all commercial spaces were filled. Then from there you'd want to manage - is better lighting needed on certain streets? Signage to reduce frustration from people who aren't familiar with where to park? Etc. etc.

Semi-related, did the Graveyard have to account for more spaces when they opened the Basement? Is 529 having to do so with their expansion? Clearly both of those expansions mean more people coming to EAV. Do the owners of those businesses have any information that would be useful because they just went through it? It's all just such a black hole of required but unknown information.

Likewise, is someone counting the diminishing parking spaces that are swallowed up by sink holes, like the one in Abe's lot outside of the former Slush Market?

This is a bigger and more complicated scope of services than many may realize.  Might be a good thing for a reconstituted EABA to consider retaining an appropriately qualified individual or firm to accomplish, if it re-forms.

Hilarious.

[SteveD]

Is anyone considering doing a survey of parking, including residential streets nearby, of EAV?  This does seem like an important issue.

Seems to be the biggest problem - nobody (save for Ed Gilgor, who I'm sure has all sorts of parking information stored in his brain) has apparently ever done this. Or at least the information does not seem to be available if it's been done.

There should be an inventory of lot and street spaces, a count of spaces in use at various times, an accounting for the parking needs of existing businesses and maximum parking needs if all commercial spaces were filled. Then from there you'd want to manage - is better lighting needed on certain streets? Signage to reduce frustration from people who aren't familiar with where to park? Etc. etc.

Semi-related, did the Graveyard have to account for more spaces when they opened the Basement? Is 529 having to do so with their expansion? Clearly both of those expansions mean more people coming to EAV. Do the owners of those businesses have any information that would be useful because they just went through it? It's all just such a black hole of required but unknown information.

Likewise, is someone counting the diminishing parking spaces that are swallowed up by sink holes, like the one in Abe's lot outside of the former Slush Market?

This is a bigger and more complicated scope of services than many may realize.  Might be a good thing for a reconstituted EABA to consider retaining an appropriately qualified individual or firm to accomplish, if it re-forms.

Hilarious.

Care to elaborate?

[Cap'n Ken]

Is anyone considering doing a survey of parking, including residential streets nearby, of EAV?  This does seem like an important issue.

Seems to be the biggest problem - nobody (save for Ed Gilgor, who I'm sure has all sorts of parking information stored in his brain) has apparently ever done this. Or at least the information does not seem to be available if it's been done.

There should be an inventory of lot and street spaces, a count of spaces in use at various times, an accounting for the parking needs of existing businesses and maximum parking needs if all commercial spaces were filled. Then from there you'd want to manage - is better lighting needed on certain streets? Signage to reduce frustration from people who aren't familiar with where to park? Etc. etc.

Semi-related, did the Graveyard have to account for more spaces when they opened the Basement? Is 529 having to do so with their expansion? Clearly both of those expansions mean more people coming to EAV. Do the owners of those businesses have any information that would be useful because they just went through it? It's all just such a black hole of required but unknown information.

Likewise, is someone counting the diminishing parking spaces that are swallowed up by sink holes, like the one in Abe's lot outside of the former Slush Market?

This is a bigger and more complicated scope of services than many may realize.  Might be a good thing for a reconstituted EABA to consider retaining an appropriately qualified individual or firm to accomplish, if it re-forms.

Hilarious.

Care to elaborate?

The idea that EABA would ever been organized / funded / etc. to such a degree is pretty laughable.

Why wouldn't this be an EACA initiative?

[SteveD]

That premise isn't laughable to me.  In fact the not insignificant $$ held in escrow by EACA on behalf of the now defunct former EABA, which a newly reconstituted EABA would have access to, would more than cover such a survey.  As you know an exploratory meeting at EABA reformulation is to be held later this month and the early reception by business owners (a significantly larger group of business owners than was ever a part of the former EABA) has been very enthusiastic. 

Not saying it couldn't be an EACA initiative, but since this discussion pertains to parking in the Village, an EAV business initiative makes more sense to me. 

[lorelei]

The idea that EABA would ever been organized / funded / etc. to such a degree is pretty laughable.

Why wouldn't this be an EACA initiative?

I suppose it could be if there was enough manpower. You want to volunteer to help Jack or Andy? (transportation and land use/zoning respectively) I know they both have their hands pretty full with other issues, as does EACA as a whole, but maybe with some fresh volunteers something could be looked into.

[Cap'n Ken]

The idea that EABA would ever been organized / funded / etc. to such a degree is pretty laughable.

Why wouldn't this be an EACA initiative?

I suppose it could be if there was enough manpower. You want to volunteer to help Jack or Andy? (transportation and land use/zoning respectively) I know they both have their hands pretty full with other issues, as does EACA as a whole, but maybe with some fresh volunteers something could be looked into.

I maintain the Rabble Rouser's Distance from EACA and things of that nature. I'm happy to help out in a manpower sort of capacity, but I purposefully stay away from official roles in things like that.

[Cap'n Ken]

That premise isn't laughable to me.  In fact the not insignificant $$ held in escrow by EACA on behalf of the now defunct former EABA, which a newly reconstituted EABA would have access to, would more than cover such a survey.  As you know an exploratory meeting at EABA reformulation is to be held later this month and the early reception by business owners (a significantly larger group of business owners than was ever a part of the former EABA) has been very enthusiastic. 

Not saying it couldn't be an EACA initiative, but since this discussion pertains to parking in the Village, an EAV business initiative makes more sense to me.

I'll hold further laughter as a courtesy, then. But given the lack of real district-wide "we're all in this together" attitudes in the past I don't have a lot of hope that an EABA would ever successfully address something like this.

[Clue]

Don't maintain a distance, all passionate citizens are encouraged to get involved in some capacity. Talking about the issues are great, but so much more could be done with more volunteers.  There are so many things to focus on, and it can be pretty difficult to believe that an all volunteer organization can accomplish them without the help from as many people as possible.

As to new ideas, I don't know what those are, but I have to believe as large a group that lives in EA we can come up with intelligent ideas to at least bring to the table. 

As far as an EABA ever being organized enough to tackle an issue such as this, I would respond that if this isn't an issue that business and property owners in the Village are interested in having a unified voice speaking for them than, you are right, nothing will get them involved....until somebody starts pushing a no smoking policy in the Village.  You might not get a unified voice on no smoking, but I believe you will get some involvement.  Maybe Natalyn should bring that to the City Council just for kicks.

I plan on using this as a rallying cry Feb 29th as a classic example that business owners need leadership and a prior plan in place to deal with this and other similar future issues. 

[Cap'n Ken]

Don't maintain a distance, all passionate citizens are encouraged to get involved in some capacity. Talking about the issues are great, but so much more could be done with more volunteers.  There are so many things to focus on, and it can be pretty difficult to believe that an all volunteer organization can accomplish them without the help from as many people as possible.

Like I say - I'm happy to be involved in doing things, but not in running / deciding / organizing / officially discussing, etc. things. I doubt everybody values what I try to do here, which is question and opine strictly from my individual perspective, but that ability means a lot to me. I couldn't have some official role in EACA and maintain that.

[lorelei]

Don't maintain a distance, all passionate citizens are encouraged to get involved in some capacity. Talking about the issues are great, but so much more could be done with more volunteers.  There are so many things to focus on, and it can be pretty difficult to believe that an all volunteer organization can accomplish them without the help from as many people as possible.

Like I say - I'm happy to be involved in doing things, but not in running / deciding / organizing / officially discussing, etc. things. I doubt everybody values what I try to do here, which is question and opine strictly from my individual perspective, but that ability means a lot to me. I couldn't have some official role in EACA and maintain that.

That's what I meant tho. Andy and Jack are the organizers/leaders of their respective committees, but they can't get work done without volunteers to help implement their plans.

[Cap'n Ken]

Don't maintain a distance, all passionate citizens are encouraged to get involved in some capacity. Talking about the issues are great, but so much more could be done with more volunteers.  There are so many things to focus on, and it can be pretty difficult to believe that an all volunteer organization can accomplish them without the help from as many people as possible.

Like I say - I'm happy to be involved in doing things, but not in running / deciding / organizing / officially discussing, etc. things. I doubt everybody values what I try to do here, which is question and opine strictly from my individual perspective, but that ability means a lot to me. I couldn't have some official role in EACA and maintain that.

That's what I meant tho. Andy and Jack are the organizers/leaders of their respective committees, but they can't get work done without volunteers to help implement their plans.

Cool. I'm definitely up for that. Are there calls for EACA volunteers that I haven't been seeing? Or if they're not at that point yet, I'd be happy to get put down as a worker resource if they're putting together a plan.

[Clue]

Don't maintain a distance, all passionate citizens are encouraged to get involved in some capacity. Talking about the issues are great, but so much more could be done with more volunteers.  There are so many things to focus on, and it can be pretty difficult to believe that an all volunteer organization can accomplish them without the help from as many people as possible.

Like I say - I'm happy to be involved in doing things, but not in running / deciding / organizing / officially discussing, etc. things. I doubt everybody values what I try to do here, which is question and opine strictly from my individual perspective, but that ability means a lot to me. I couldn't have some official role in EACA and maintain that.

That's what I meant tho. Andy and Jack are the organizers/leaders of their respective committees, but they can't get work done without volunteers to help implement their plans.

Cool. I'm definitely up for that. Are there calls for EACA volunteers that I haven't been seeing? Or if they're not at that point yet, I'd be happy to get put down as a worker resource if they're putting together a plan.

Awesome CK!  You could do an great job at helping to compile info.  I will pass you along to those guys to see how they can use you best. 

On a different note, but also in this thread, I will start a new thread about the upcoming city meetings that will be discussing the liquor license ordinance for those that believe some important changes need to be made.   If you don't like the current ordinance this is your chance to help affect change in relation to it.

[Clue]

Don't maintain a distance, all passionate citizens are encouraged to get involved in some capacity. Talking about the issues are great, but so much more could be done with more volunteers.  There are so many things to focus on, and it can be pretty difficult to believe that an all volunteer organization can accomplish them without the help from as many people as possible.

Like I say - I'm happy to be involved in doing things, but not in running / deciding / organizing / officially discussing, etc. things. I doubt everybody values what I try to do here, which is question and opine strictly from my individual perspective, but that ability means a lot to me. I couldn't have some official role in EACA and maintain that.

That's what I meant tho. Andy and Jack are the organizers/leaders of their respective committees, but they can't get work done without volunteers to help implement their plans.

Cool. I'm definitely up for that. Are there calls for EACA volunteers that I haven't been seeing? Or if they're not at that point yet, I'd be happy to get put down as a worker resource if they're putting together a plan.

I have left a message with both of those guys as well as Ed to see if a volunteer is needed to do any type of leg work about this issue.  I thought you might also be interested in some zoning issues that you and I have spoken about in the past.  We are putting together a group of concerned citizens in the BC triangle area to work on going through the process of trying to get the triangle rezoned.  Still have interest in doing background work for that?  Andy will be heading that up as our zoning guru.

[Cap'n Ken]

Don't maintain a distance, all passionate citizens are encouraged to get involved in some capacity. Talking about the issues are great, but so much more could be done with more volunteers.  There are so many things to focus on, and it can be pretty difficult to believe that an all volunteer organization can accomplish them without the help from as many people as possible.

Like I say - I'm happy to be involved in doing things, but not in running / deciding / organizing / officially discussing, etc. things. I doubt everybody values what I try to do here, which is question and opine strictly from my individual perspective, but that ability means a lot to me. I couldn't have some official role in EACA and maintain that.

That's what I meant tho. Andy and Jack are the organizers/leaders of their respective committees, but they can't get work done without volunteers to help implement their plans.

Cool. I'm definitely up for that. Are there calls for EACA volunteers that I haven't been seeing? Or if they're not at that point yet, I'd be happy to get put down as a worker resource if they're putting together a plan.

I have left a message with both of those guys as well as Ed to see if a volunteer is needed to do any type of leg work about this issue.  I thought you might also be interested in some zoning issues that you and I have spoken about in the past.  We are putting together a group of concerned citizens in the BC triangle area to work on going through the process of trying to get the triangle rezoned.  Still have interest in doing background work for that?  Andy will be heading that up as our zoning guru.

I do love me some zoning crap.

[bobbyj]

It may be a parking issue but maybe the people who own the building will need the spots for their offices.  I mean it's a huge building.  I counted the spots today and if they have 20 employees that would fill all the parking spots when you add in the bank and the real estate office that's already there.  We may be blowing the whole thing out of proportion.  They may need it for their business.  But who knows, maybe they don't need the parking in the evening and on the weekends.  Again who really knows.  I've never had a problem parking on the street.  Although I do use the parking lot from time to time. 
I've never posted here before but I live half a mile from the corner of Glenwood and Flat Shoals, I love Joe's, my favorite 2 restaurants in all Atlanta (and NYC for that matter) are SOBA and Holy Taco.  I eat at both places an average of 15-20 times a month.  I know!  I'm starting to look like a vietnamese taco.

Best,

Bobby