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Help me win a food argument!
« on: January 13, 2012, 10:19 am »
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A few weeks ago we had dinner with folks, and something about one of the men present just rubbed me the wrong way. He was one of those people who speak down to everyone and particularly despises Americans because, you know, we're all crass morons and everything in London is better.  ::)  He claimed, at dinner, that there was no original American food, and that everything from America was stolen from somewhere else. My immediate response: "That's nonsense. America is a huge country with many cultural differences, cuisine included.  You've obviously never heard of sourdough bread, BBQ or a turducken." I think I said it more nicely, but you get the point. The conversation changed then, so he never really responded.  So, we're seeing Dick-Face soon and I would not be surprised if he jumped back onto this discussion.  I can think of a few other American culinary creations, but would love Buzzer input. My husband said that I should have responded "maybe we didn't invent the foods, but we sure made them better" and just smile at him, because that would be what he would expect from an American, but  I'd rather win the argument!

This is a fun game!  Suggestions?  Purely American foods or dishes or even twists on existing foods that make it American?  Go!   :laugh:     
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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2012, 10:29 am »
Corn Dogs are American.
The sublime Philly Cheesesteak (when done right).
New York pizza, bitches! Yeah, pizza as a class of food that might have originated elsewhere... but NY Pizza is a thing you just can't get anywhere else.
Buffalo wings.
Soul food... forged in the despair of the southern plantation slave culture and perfected over generations after that.
Chili. I think we invented it in the American SW.
Cornbread.
There's a ton of them...



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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2012, 10:32 am »
Cheese curds and clam chowder!   |@|
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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2012, 10:34 am »
cheesecake, sweet potato souflee with marshmallows, jello salad, chicken pot pie

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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2012, 10:36 am »
Oh and England is know for their culinary arts?

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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2012, 10:37 am »
Bourbon

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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2012, 10:37 am »
Aren't corn and tobacco native to America? How about maple syrup?
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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2012, 10:45 am »
Well:

A) America as we know it today is an offshoot of European societies, so any snotty Brit or Euro can throw out the largely accurate and largely meaningless point that American food is derivative ... because America is derivative.

b) That said, American derivations (as they incorporate influences of African slaves, Native Americans, the melding of European cultures that really only happened here in the past 400 years, foods specific to the continent, etc.) can very much be "original".

Barbecue is a great example. Europeans had pigs, but they never came up with barbecue. Bring those pigs to America, introduce African and Caribbean spices and the need/desire to use portions that only cook well slow and low ... and you get barbecue. I'm sure the Brits have similar explanations for how Fecal Pudding or whatever is their own dish even though the ingredients existed long before whoever conquered those idiots at the time they produced that dish had conquered them.
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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2012, 11:02 am »
Surprised Cap didn't toss out Cajun food as well. As far as uniquely American cuisines, I think we've got:

  • Cajun / Creole / Low Country
  • Barbecue
  • Soul / Southern

And there are many uniquely American dishes that fall outside of those categories:
  • Pizza (yeah, Italy invented, but we've made it our own)
  • Hot dogs
  • Biscuits
  • Chili
  • Pecan pie
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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #9 on: January 13, 2012, 11:04 am »
Tex-Mex, -Burritos, gorditas, etc developed by Texans and not exactly "Mexican" food
Burgoo / Brunswick Stew
Chowder
Pecan Pie
Bourbon
Hot Browns  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Brown

http://www.endlesssimmer.com/2008/07/02/the-top-10-foods-only-america-could-have-invented/

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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #10 on: January 13, 2012, 11:06 am »
If I wanted to eat a scone or a krumpet I'd chew rocks from my driveway that have more flavor and better consistency.

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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #11 on: January 13, 2012, 11:19 am »
Excellent examples!  I think I'm going to make a spreadsheet with food, contents, regional influences and state of origin and hand it to him and walk away as soon as he opens his mouth!   "That's right, fuckface!  We not only have some excellent cuisine, but we're efficient as hell!"  Then I can rip off my tearaways a la Appollo Creed in Rocky 4 and dance around shadow boxing him to Made In America in my American flag unitard!   That would be awesome!
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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2012, 11:25 am »
He was one of those people who speak down to everyone and particularly despises Americans because, you know, we're all crass morons and everything in London is better::) 

The police surveillance certainly is.  ::)
If he's British himself, I'm surprised you didn't just laugh him out of the room after he got uppity on this subject.
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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2012, 11:25 am »
As far as I know, the quintessential American hamburger is without precedent.  If he says "It's a fecking sandwich", you have my permission - indeed, my hearty encouragement - to slap to pommie bastard senseless.  The Krauts used to eat ground beef as a formed steak or in a stew, but from what I've read, the 'burger is all ours.
 
There are probably a dozen different breads (a function of new grain varieties that, until America was gentrified, weren't available) unique to the US.
 
And the FUCKING PEANUT BUSTER PARFAIT.

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Re: Help me win a food argument!
« Reply #14 on: January 13, 2012, 11:25 am »
Definitely cheesesteak and soul food and bbq and bourbon!  I don't recall ever eating fried chicken in the UK, am I wrong?

Chowder is derived from a soup in Britain called cullen skink which, despite the off-putting name, is delicious fish chowder.

I thought we did invent pizza?  And the Italians imported it from us?