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Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« on: February 16, 2012, 10:38 am »
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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2012, 10:48 am »
this is an awesome performance

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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2012, 11:24 am »
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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2012, 12:23 pm »
Does that work in GA?

That guy has a lot of cajones.

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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2012, 12:38 pm »
Does that work in GA?

That guy has a lot of cajones.

It works anywhere, because it's the legal reality of the situation. But you'd better be willing to play it to the end. Which means actually getting arrested. And then filing false arrest charges later. And you'd probably also better have a camera. Otherwise it'll likely be your word against his/hers later that you.. whatever the cop tries to call it when you "get uppity with mah authority".
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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2012, 12:42 pm »
Does that work in GA?

That guy has a lot of cajones.

It works anywhere, because it's the legal reality of the situation. But you'd better be willing to play it to the end. Which means actually getting arrested. And then filing false arrest charges later. And you'd probably also better have a camera. Otherwise it'll likely be your word against his/hers later that you.. whatever the cop tries to call it when you "get uppity with mah authority".

Yeah, it only worked because it was filmed and could easily have ended with an arrest and an obstruction charge (obstruction basically meaning "pissing off a police officer").

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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2012, 12:44 pm »
I think they're primarily looking to get a whiff of alcohol or some visible sign of intoxication...so the little he talked probably gave them the answer they needed anyway.   :(~

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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2012, 12:48 pm »
You clearly do not have to answer their questions; but if there are other indicia that indicate you've been drinking, it could lead to a further stop/arrest which would be legal.  It's fact based.  Like JG said, they prolly didn't smell alochol or detect otherwise visible intoxication and concluded it was a Libertarian just showing off.

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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2012, 02:37 pm »
This is as good a place as any for those that haven't seen this to be exposed to it:
Dont Talk to Police
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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2012, 03:53 pm »
The supervisor was cool, for a cop.  My take (IANAL) is that they didn't have a reason to force any issues due to lack of probably cause.  She's cool because lots of cops are dicks (some by training and some naturally) and would want to f with someone who doesn't follow their path-to-confession questions.  It probably helped him that there was in fact supervision and that there probably was a line of folks back up already (time constraint).  Others, especially stopped individually, aren't so lucky because police (as trained and the dick-factor) don't really care much about your rights (what's actually left of them anyway), especially if those rights affect their quotas or if they are in a bad mood or for some reason don't like you or your color or hair or car or attitude or bumper sticker or....

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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 06:16 pm »
Does that work in GA?

That guy has a lot of cajones.

It works anywhere, because it's the legal reality of the situation. But you'd better be willing to play it to the end. Which means actually getting arrested. And then filing false arrest charges later. And you'd probably also better have a camera. Otherwise it'll likely be your word against his/hers later that you.. whatever the cop tries to call it when you "get uppity with mah authority".

Right.  It's the willing to play the game you started until the end, without wavering, that gets to me.    I got nervous just watching that video.

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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2012, 06:36 pm »
That "Don't talk to police" video should be required viewing for every civics study class! :-X
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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2012, 11:02 pm »
Does that work in GA?

That guy has a lot of cajones.

It works anywhere, because it's the legal reality of the situation. But you'd better be willing to play it to the end. Which means actually getting arrested. And then filing false arrest charges later. And you'd probably also better have a camera. Otherwise it'll likely be your word against his/hers later that you.. whatever the cop tries to call it when you "get uppity with mah authority".

Right.  It's the willing to play the game you started until the end, without wavering, that gets to me.    I got nervous just watching that video.

Here's how I put this on another board where we're talking about that video:

The logical conclusion to this game is that if you want me to talk, arrest me. Then have fun talking to my lawyer. Then have fun listening to your sergeant/the judge chew you a new one for arresting a guy for no real reason. If more people played the game this way, we'd have far fewer "papers, please" moments intruding on our lives because it wouldn't be worth their time anymore.

And that's the royal "me" there. I understand why it doesn't make sense for an individual, at any one moment, to be able to play the game that way. But, it would be really cool, and really good for the country, if we all could and did.

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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2012, 07:40 am »
Most importantly, don;t drive drunk and then you can answer and be on your way without all the dicking around.
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Re: Guy handles DUI checkpoint like a boss
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2012, 09:44 am »
Most importantly, don;t drive drunk and then you can answer and be on your way without all the dicking around.
  • That is a terrible, defeatist, and downright un-American attitude, right on up there with "if you didn't do anything wrong then you have nothing to hide" and "first they came for the _____, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a ____". Folks like you failing to appreciate the Bill of Rights is why folks like Bush Jr. could get away with calling it "a goddamn piece of paper!"
  • Impressively, the 'dicking around' in the video took less time than answering the questions would have (because they wouldn't have stopped with "did you have anything to drink tonight," no matter how he answered)!
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