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APS Redistricting Round II - The Preview
« on: January 20, 2012, 08:10 am »
So in advance of the second round of "demographic study" presentations, APS' temp superintendent laid out a tantalizing set of "guiding principles" he intends to use in translating the "study" into a recommendation for the APS Board.

They read:

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Ranking of Priorities

Priority One

• Propose boundaries that will be functional for 10 years based on forecasted enrollment.

• Attempt to assign students to schools located closest to their homes. Allow K-8 students to walk where possible. The proximity of ES’s to MS’s should be maximized.

• Attempt to maximize/keep the school feeder concept intact. No more split feeders. Clusters only.

• When evaluating consolidation/closure scenarios and determining which facilities should be retained vs. closed, consideration should be given to minimizing disruption to established educational programming (retain existing IB programs, magnet schools, etc.)

• Ensure student safety and transportation efficiency by using major highway corridors and geographic features as zone boundaries. Give weight to traffic patterns, energy efficiency, etc. Consider time spent on buses.

• Assume NAHS capacity of 2400.

• Minimize impacts on areas that have been redistricted within the last three years.

• Recommend school consolidation/closures in areas where forecasted enrollment does not support multiple schools.

• Attempt to avoid splitting neighborhoods. (Neighborhood boundaries are determined by generally accepted definitions used by the City of Atlanta).

Priority Two

• Favor the retention of newer/larger facilities which have benefitted from recent capital investment in expansion or renovation.

• Retain more accessible, less congested school sites which have better transportation access and can accommodate future long-term expansion beyond the forecast period of this study.

• When consolidating, to the extent possible, avoid closing a high performing school to send children to a lower performing school.

• Don’t eliminate an IB school within an IB cluster.

• Retain ES splitting (K-3, 4-5) as a planning tool.

• Consider SPLOST funded school expansions as a planning tool.

• Be careful in moving students from high performing ES’s to low performing MS’s.

• Balance current utilization of retained buildings to 80% to 90% of capacity.

• In at least one model, minimize the number of transfers across the board.

Priority Three

• Before closing a school, consider the robustness of its partner support.

• No K-8 schools planning until Board reviews/resolves policy issues.

• Eliminate the 9th Grade Academy as a stand alone facility.

I don't know if he just gives up at the end where he moves from principles to policy statements ("No K-8 schools ....", "Eliminate the 9th Grade Academy ..."), but some of this makes sense while some of it seems like a riddle he's asking us to figure out. Trying to apply these priorities to BPA/Whitefooord/Toomer/East Lake / Coan / Jackson seems to require some kind of algorithm to process through the conflicting "priorities".

Obviously these things will need to be applied to whatever this next round of "study" produces next week.

Thoughts?
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Re: APS Redistricting Round II - The Preview
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 10:34 am »
So in advance of the second round of "demographic study" presentations, APS' temp superintendent laid out a tantalizing set of "guiding principles" he intends to use in translating the "study" into a recommendation for the APS Board.

They read:

Quote
Ranking of Priorities

Priority One

• Propose boundaries that will be functional for 10 years based on forecasted enrollment.

• Attempt to assign students to schools located closest to their homes. Allow K-8 students to walk where possible. The proximity of ES’s to MS’s should be maximized.

• Attempt to maximize/keep the school feeder concept intact. No more split feeders. Clusters only.

• When evaluating consolidation/closure scenarios and determining which facilities should be retained vs. closed, consideration should be given to minimizing disruption to established educational programming (retain existing IB programs, magnet schools, etc.)

• Ensure student safety and transportation efficiency by using major highway corridors and geographic features as zone boundaries. Give weight to traffic patterns, energy efficiency, etc. Consider time spent on buses.

• Assume NAHS capacity of 2400.

• Minimize impacts on areas that have been redistricted within the last three years.

• Recommend school consolidation/closures in areas where forecasted enrollment does not support multiple schools.

• Attempt to avoid splitting neighborhoods. (Neighborhood boundaries are determined by generally accepted definitions used by the City of Atlanta).

Priority Two

• Favor the retention of newer/larger facilities which have benefitted from recent capital investment in expansion or renovation.

• Retain more accessible, less congested school sites which have better transportation access and can accommodate future long-term expansion beyond the forecast period of this study.

• When consolidating, to the extent possible, avoid closing a high performing school to send children to a lower performing school.

• Don’t eliminate an IB school within an IB cluster.

• Retain ES splitting (K-3, 4-5) as a planning tool.

• Consider SPLOST funded school expansions as a planning tool.

• Be careful in moving students from high performing ES’s to low performing MS’s.

• Balance current utilization of retained buildings to 80% to 90% of capacity.

• In at least one model, minimize the number of transfers across the board.

Priority Three

• Before closing a school, consider the robustness of its partner support.

• No K-8 schools planning until Board reviews/resolves policy issues.

• Eliminate the 9th Grade Academy as a stand alone facility.

I don't know if he just gives up at the end where he moves from principles to policy statements ("No K-8 schools ....", "Eliminate the 9th Grade Academy ..."), but some of this makes sense while some of it seems like a riddle he's asking us to figure out. Trying to apply these priorities to BPA/Whitefooord/Toomer/East Lake / Coan / Jackson seems to require some kind of algorithm to process through the conflicting "priorities".

Obviously these things will need to be applied to whatever this next round of "study" produces next week.

Thoughts?

Interesting, and you're right - There are some inherent conflicts in there.  In all, it looks like a broad enough menu that they can buttress almost any move with at least one item off the list.
 
Some items are clearly a response to public pressure (minimizing impact on recently redistricted schools plays right into SPARK's plan) and some are fairly opposite public opinion (retaining the split ES model and refuting the K-8 model).  The nod to geographic and infrastructural boundaries is good (remains to be seen if DeKalb Ave. will be so identified), and the point about retaining existing programs bodes well for Whitefoord and Coan, while the favoring of recently renovated schools bodes well for BPA.  Still and all, there is so much wiggle in here, I'm not going to comfortable until I see the actual plans themselves.
 
Of note, this whole process might have been a lot more palatable if they'd STARTED with this outline of principles.  Don't draw a damn thing until you agree on a set of guidelines... but that's water under the bridge at this point.  And I don't know that, based on where we are in the process and the negativity that's been generated, this list can noticeably dampen the inevitable firestorm after the next reveal.

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Re: APS Redistricting Round II - The Preview
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 11:13 am »
So in advance of the second round of "demographic study" presentations, APS' temp superintendent laid out a tantalizing set of "guiding principles" he intends to use in translating the "study" into a recommendation for the APS Board.

They read:

Quote
Ranking of Priorities

Priority One

• Propose boundaries that will be functional for 10 years based on forecasted enrollment.

• Attempt to assign students to schools located closest to their homes. Allow K-8 students to walk where possible. The proximity of ES’s to MS’s should be maximized.

• Attempt to maximize/keep the school feeder concept intact. No more split feeders. Clusters only.

• When evaluating consolidation/closure scenarios and determining which facilities should be retained vs. closed, consideration should be given to minimizing disruption to established educational programming (retain existing IB programs, magnet schools, etc.)

• Ensure student safety and transportation efficiency by using major highway corridors and geographic features as zone boundaries. Give weight to traffic patterns, energy efficiency, etc. Consider time spent on buses.

• Assume NAHS capacity of 2400.

• Minimize impacts on areas that have been redistricted within the last three years.

• Recommend school consolidation/closures in areas where forecasted enrollment does not support multiple schools.

• Attempt to avoid splitting neighborhoods. (Neighborhood boundaries are determined by generally accepted definitions used by the City of Atlanta).

Priority Two

• Favor the retention of newer/larger facilities which have benefitted from recent capital investment in expansion or renovation.

• Retain more accessible, less congested school sites which have better transportation access and can accommodate future long-term expansion beyond the forecast period of this study.

• When consolidating, to the extent possible, avoid closing a high performing school to send children to a lower performing school.

• Don’t eliminate an IB school within an IB cluster.

• Retain ES splitting (K-3, 4-5) as a planning tool.

• Consider SPLOST funded school expansions as a planning tool.

• Be careful in moving students from high performing ES’s to low performing MS’s.

• Balance current utilization of retained buildings to 80% to 90% of capacity.

• In at least one model, minimize the number of transfers across the board.

Priority Three

• Before closing a school, consider the robustness of its partner support.

• No K-8 schools planning until Board reviews/resolves policy issues.

• Eliminate the 9th Grade Academy as a stand alone facility.

I don't know if he just gives up at the end where he moves from principles to policy statements ("No K-8 schools ....", "Eliminate the 9th Grade Academy ..."), but some of this makes sense while some of it seems like a riddle he's asking us to figure out. Trying to apply these priorities to BPA/Whitefooord/Toomer/East Lake / Coan / Jackson seems to require some kind of algorithm to process through the conflicting "priorities".

Obviously these things will need to be applied to whatever this next round of "study" produces next week.

Thoughts?

Interesting, and you're right - There are some inherent conflicts in there.  In all, it looks like a broad enough menu that they can buttress almost any move with at least one item off the list.
 
Some items are clearly a response to public pressure (minimizing impact on recently redistricted schools plays right into SPARK's plan) and some are fairly opposite public opinion (retaining the split ES model and refuting the K-8 model).  The nod to geographic and infrastructural boundaries is good (remains to be seen if DeKalb Ave. will be so identified), and the point about retaining existing programs bodes well for Whitefoord and Coan, while the favoring of recently renovated schools bodes well for BPA.  Still and all, there is so much wiggle in here, I'm not going to comfortable until I see the actual plans themselves.
 
Of note, this whole process might have been a lot more palatable if they'd STARTED with this outline of principles.  Don't draw a damn thing until you agree on a set of guidelines... but that's water under the bridge at this point.  And I don't know that, based on where we are in the process and the negativity that's been generated, this list can noticeably dampen the inevitable firestorm after the next reveal.

Agreed. They've so thoroughly tripped over their own dicks already that even if the next reveal contains brilliant, well-considered ideas, they're still going to get an almighty shitstorm. But call me cynical: I'm not optimistic about the brilliance of what's coming.
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Re: APS Redistricting Round II - The Preview
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 11:31 am »
Does it all start then with figuring out the high school zones based on capacity and projected need and then identifying the feeder schools in each clusterfuck and making facility decisions according to these rules?

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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 11:46 am »
Does it all start then with figuring out the high school zones based on capacity and projected need and then identifying the feeder schools in each clusterfuck and making facility decisions according to these rules?

Would that that much sense were involved.  'Course, I can't entirely blame APS.  Even in a rational approach like that, the analysis and apportionment of feeders would be so suffused with neighborhood politics as to make an engineered solution completely unpalatable.
 
Agreed. They've so thoroughly tripped over their own dicks already that even if the next reveal contains brilliant, well-considered ideas, they're still going to get an almighty shitstorm. But call me cynical: I'm not optimistic about the brilliance of what's coming.

Sad thing is, I know professionally some of the guys involved on the consulting side, and they're pretty sharp guys.  They know their sh*t about as well as anyone out there.  But I think the process (as dictated by APS) was flawed from the onset, and they were hamstrung by that.  No options should ever have been presented until the demographics themselves were presented and digested, the respective state of the physical facilities was analyzed and presented, and the based guiding principles were discussed and agreed upon.  Only then should any drawing have been done.  But it's kinda too late for that eh?
 
 

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Re: APS Redistricting Round II - The Preview
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 12:04 pm »
Does it all start then with figuring out the high school zones based on capacity and projected need and then identifying the feeder schools in each clusterfuck and making facility decisions according to these rules?

Would that that much sense were involved.  'Course, I can't entirely blame APS.  Even in a rational approach like that, the analysis and apportionment of feeders would be so suffused with neighborhood politics as to make an engineered solution completely unpalatable.
 
Agreed. They've so thoroughly tripped over their own dicks already that even if the next reveal contains brilliant, well-considered ideas, they're still going to get an almighty shitstorm. But call me cynical: I'm not optimistic about the brilliance of what's coming.

Sad thing is, I know professionally some of the guys involved on the consulting side, and they're pretty sharp guys.  They know their sh*t about as well as anyone out there.  But I think the process (as dictated by APS) was flawed from the onset, and they were hamstrung by that.  No options should ever have been presented until the demographics themselves were presented and digested, the respective state of the physical facilities was analyzed and presented, and the based guiding principles were discussed and agreed upon.  Only then should any drawing have been done.  But it's kinda too late for that eh?

I liked the part in his letter where he says he'd sending these priorities along to the "demographers" but notes that it's merely a suggestion and not something they are bound to consider. But, of course, the "demographers" are just advising APS anyway and it's the superintendent and board's ultimate decision to make.

That's some seriously ass-backwards thinking in terms of this process. I think they might have started out with a "we can blame the demographers!" approach but have realized that won't fly (though they seem to still be banking on some amount of that).
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Re: APS Redistricting Round II - The Preview
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 12:07 pm »
And I think this also really raises the question of whether an "Interim" superintendent should be given the authority to set priorities that right at the top say they need to be relevant for 10 years. Shouldn't Priority A One be "Identify a permanent leader for this organization before making changes that will likely be in effect for that leader's entire tenure"?
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« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 12:15 pm »
I think by putting out this list, they wanted to demonstrate that "We are listening to you."  I also think that list was political to appease some of their critics (i.e., the City Council).

And yes, obvious inherent conflicts.

I am very curious to see what the next round looks like.

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« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 12:23 pm »
I think by putting out this list, they wanted to demonstrate that "We are listening to you."  I also think that list was political to appease some of their critics (i.e., the City Council).

And yes, obvious inherent conflicts.

I am very curious to see what the next round looks like.

I saw something about Natalyn and some school board member having a Jan 26 meeting at Drew in advance of the big Jan 30 one (at Jackson?). I wonder if the new plans will be shown then / otherwise be available late next week.
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 12:32 pm »
I think by putting out this list, they wanted to demonstrate that "We are listening to you."  I also think that list was political to appease some of their critics (i.e., the City Council).

And yes, obvious inherent conflicts.

I am very curious to see what the next round looks like.

I saw something about Natalyn and some school board member having a Jan 26 meeting at Drew in advance of the big Jan 30 one (at Jackson?). I wonder if the new plans will be shown then / otherwise be available late next week.

It's been moved to the 25th, but yes, there is such a meeting.  Several people I know are betting the maps are out by the time the meeting takes place.  I am not one of those people.

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Re: APS Redistricting Round II - The Preview
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 12:34 pm »
I think by putting out this list, they wanted to demonstrate that "We are listening to you."  I also think that list was political to appease some of their critics (i.e., the City Council).

And yes, obvious inherent conflicts.

I am very curious to see what the next round looks like.

I saw something about Natalyn and some school board member having a Jan 26 meeting at Drew in advance of the big Jan 30 one (at Jackson?). I wonder if the new plans will be shown then / otherwise be available late next week.

It's been moved to the 25th, but yes, there is such a meeting.  Several people I know are betting the maps are out by the time the meeting takes place.  I am not one of those people.

What time on the 25th?
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Re: APS Redistricting Round II - The Preview
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 12:44 pm »
I think by putting out this list, they wanted to demonstrate that "We are listening to you."  I also think that list was political to appease some of their critics (i.e., the City Council).

And yes, obvious inherent conflicts.

I am very curious to see what the next round looks like.

I saw something about Natalyn and some school board member having a Jan 26 meeting at Drew in advance of the big Jan 30 one (at Jackson?). I wonder if the new plans will be shown then / otherwise be available late next week.

It's been moved to the 25th, but yes, there is such a meeting.  Several people I know are betting the maps are out by the time the meeting takes place.  I am not one of those people.

What time on the 25th?

Here's the original announcement.  I would presume that the time hasn't changed:

Sent on the behalf of Board Member Cecily Harsch–Kinnane, Educational District 3 and Councilperson Natalyn Mosby Archibong
What: School Redistricting Town Hall Meeting
When: Jan 26th 25th at 7 pm
Where: Charles R. Drew Charter School
301 East Lake Boulevard
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Re: APS Redistricting Round II - The Preview
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2012, 02:31 pm »
Does it all start then with figuring out the high school zones based on capacity and projected need and then identifying the feeder schools in each clusterfuck and making facility decisions according to these rules?

Would that that much sense were involved.  'Course, I can't entirely blame APS.  Even in a rational approach like that, the analysis and apportionment of feeders would be so suffused with neighborhood politics as to make an engineered solution completely unpalatable.
 
Agreed. They've so thoroughly tripped over their own dicks already that even if the next reveal contains brilliant, well-considered ideas, they're still going to get an almighty shitstorm. But call me cynical: I'm not optimistic about the brilliance of what's coming.

Sad thing is, I know professionally some of the guys involved on the consulting side, and they're pretty sharp guys.  They know their sh*t about as well as anyone out there.  But I think the process (as dictated by APS) was flawed from the onset, and they were hamstrung by that.  No options should ever have been presented until the demographics themselves were presented and digested, the respective state of the physical facilities was analyzed and presented, and the based guiding principles were discussed and agreed upon.  Only then should any drawing have been done.  But it's kinda too late for that eh?

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Re: APS Redistricting Round II - The Preview
« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2012, 02:36 pm »
I think by putting out this list, they wanted to demonstrate that "We are listening to you."  I also think that list was political to appease some of their critics (i.e., the City Council).

And yes, obvious inherent conflicts.

I am very curious to see what the next round looks like.

I saw something about Natalyn and some school board member having a Jan 26 meeting at Drew in advance of the big Jan 30 one (at Jackson?). I wonder if the new plans will be shown then / otherwise be available late next week.

It's been moved to the 25th, but yes, there is such a meeting.  Several people I know are betting the maps are out by the time the meeting takes place.  I am not one of those people.

What time on the 25th?

Here's the original announcement.  I would presume that the time hasn't changed:

Sent on the behalf of Board Member Cecily Harsch–Kinnane, Educational District 3 and Councilperson Natalyn Mosby Archibong
What: School Redistricting Town Hall Meeting
When: Jan 26th 25th at 7 pm
Where: Charles R. Drew Charter School
301 East Lake Boulevard
Atlanta, GA 30317

According to a couple of posts on Big Tent and FB, time has not changed (7:00) and Board Member Harsch-Kinnane will not be a co-host, just Councilperson Archibong.

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Re: APS Redistricting Round II - The Preview
« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2012, 02:40 pm »
I think by putting out this list, they wanted to demonstrate that "We are listening to you."  I also think that list was political to appease some of their critics (i.e., the City Council).

And yes, obvious inherent conflicts.

I am very curious to see what the next round looks like.

I saw something about Natalyn and some school board member having a Jan 26 meeting at Drew in advance of the big Jan 30 one (at Jackson?). I wonder if the new plans will be shown then / otherwise be available late next week.

It's been moved to the 25th, but yes, there is such a meeting.  Several people I know are betting the maps are out by the time the meeting takes place.  I am not one of those people.

What time on the 25th?

Here's the original announcement.  I would presume that the time hasn't changed:

Sent on the behalf of Board Member Cecily Harsch–Kinnane, Educational District 3 and Councilperson Natalyn Mosby Archibong
What: School Redistricting Town Hall Meeting
When: Jan 26th 25th at 7 pm
Where: Charles R. Drew Charter School
301 East Lake Boulevard
Atlanta, GA 30317

According to a couple of posts on Big Tent and FB, time has not changed (7:00) and Board Member Harsch-Kinnane will not be a co-host, just Councilperson Archibong.

I'd call that a win. Even without new maps if that's the case, hearing Natalyn's thoughts and her answers should be interesting.
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