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Re: APS elementary school stats
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2011, 07:43 pm »
So, is this thread just going to be you and me?  No other number geeks in the crowd?

Nope ... just me.

Man, if you want a good time, head on over to Big Tent.  There's an APS discussion board, and it's gone full crazy. Apparently no one outside of Buckhead and Morningside cares about education, Grady is overrun with thugs, and a secret cabal of Kirkwood realtors is contriving with the demographers to rezone more Mary Lin kids into the Jackson feeder in order to improve property values (I shit you not).  Fun stuff.

Don't forget the outside school proposal on the 9th green, which is doable because they have parents who work at CDC and NASA. :(~

My take from Bigtent:  one guy who seems batshit crazy constantly talks about realtors & home values (although HE is the only one who seems to mention it), and the other guy who blogs like he could be a member of the Aryan Brotherhood who always talks about race, culture, SES, and parental involvment (although his SPED child no longer is in APS since he won his lawsuit).  Fun reading for whenever you want to check your blood pressure.

I spoke with a parent from Eastlake today, and we discussed that if Bigtent was barometer of the type of people who live north of the continental divider, then perhaps that they should stay in their little bubble north of the tracks.  We wouldn't want our children to hang out with people who thought we were all undereducated, underemployed, poor riff-raff who didn't care about our children or their schools.

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Re: APS elementary school stats
« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2011, 01:12 pm »
This is fascinating data, Ken.  Thanks for pulling it together. 

I have a quick question, Dennis-- how do the enrollment projections for BPA align with the numbers from the East Atlanta Parents Network?  I know it's not in any way comprehensive, but I would think you guys would be able to track whether the numbers of participants are changing from year to year.  For instance, there might be 20 children born in 2008, 25 in 2009, etc..

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Re: APS elementary school stats
« Reply #17 on: December 27, 2011, 01:20 pm »
This is fascinating data, Ken.  Thanks for pulling it together. 

I have a quick question, Dennis-- how do the enrollment projections for BPA align with the numbers from the East Atlanta Parents Network?  I know it's not in any way comprehensive, but I would think you guys would be able to track whether the numbers of participants are changing from year to year.  For instance, there might be 20 children born in 2008, 25 in 2009, etc..

The EAPN numbers would suggest that enrollment would outpace the demographers' projections, but EAPN data collection has not been very scientific.  It's also not limited to our zone, and even by zip code it wouldn't tell us who is in or out.  Our belief that the neighborhood is growing faster than projected is almost purely anecdotal, unfortunately.

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Re: APS elementary school stats
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2011, 01:37 pm »
So, is this thread just going to be you and me?  No other number geeks in the crowd?

Nope ... just me.

Man, if you want a good time, head on over to Big Tent.  There's an APS discussion board, and it's gone full crazy. Apparently no one outside of Buckhead and Morningside cares about education, Grady is overrun with thugs, and a secret cabal of Kirkwood realtors is contriving with the demographers to rezone more Mary Lin kids into the Jackson feeder in order to improve property values (I shit you not).  Fun stuff.

Don't forget the outside school proposal on the 9th green, which is doable because they have parents who work at CDC and NASA. :(~

My take from Bigtent:  one guy who seems batshit crazy constantly talks about realtors & home values (although HE is the only one who seems to mention it), and the other guy who blogs like he could be a member of the Aryan Brotherhood who always talks about race, culture, SES, and parental involvment (although his SPED child no longer is in APS since he won his lawsuit).  Fun reading for whenever you want to check your blood pressure.

I spoke with a parent from Eastlake today, and we discussed that if Bigtent was barometer of the type of people who live north of the continental divider, then perhaps that they should stay in their little bubble north of the tracks.  We wouldn't want our children to hang out with people who thought we were all undereducated, underemployed, poor riff-raff who didn't care about our children or their schools.

Your mileage may vary...

Well just keep in mind that you're painting a picture too with this post. We're not all like that. I lived 'south of the tracks' for 11 years and now that I'm living in Big Tent Land, I can tell you that neither blanket portrayal is accurate.
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Re: APS elementary school stats
« Reply #19 on: December 27, 2011, 03:29 pm »
This is fascinating data, Ken.  Thanks for pulling it together. 

I have a quick question, Dennis-- how do the enrollment projections for BPA align with the numbers from the East Atlanta Parents Network?  I know it's not in any way comprehensive, but I would think you guys would be able to track whether the numbers of participants are changing from year to year.  For instance, there might be 20 children born in 2008, 25 in 2009, etc..

The EAPN numbers would suggest that enrollment would outpace the demographers' projections, but EAPN data collection has not been very scientific.  It's also not limited to our zone, and even by zip code it wouldn't tell us who is in or out.  Our belief that the neighborhood is growing faster than projected is almost purely anecdotal, unfortunately.

Is Census data there yet? If I recall, last I saw was just the "under 18" count.
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Re: APS elementary school stats
« Reply #20 on: December 27, 2011, 03:58 pm »
This is fascinating data, Ken.  Thanks for pulling it together. 

I have a quick question, Dennis-- how do the enrollment projections for BPA align with the numbers from the East Atlanta Parents Network?  I know it's not in any way comprehensive, but I would think you guys would be able to track whether the numbers of participants are changing from year to year.  For instance, there might be 20 children born in 2008, 25 in 2009, etc..

The EAPN numbers would suggest that enrollment would outpace the demographers' projections, but EAPN data collection has not been very scientific.  It's also not limited to our zone, and even by zip code it wouldn't tell us who is in or out.  Our belief that the neighborhood is growing faster than projected is almost purely anecdotal, unfortunately.

Is Census data there yet? If I recall, last I saw was just the "under 18" count.

We did a breakout of school-age groups (0-4, 5-11, 12-18) for a job I'm working on, by block group.  I'll have to see if I can pull up East Atlanta's...