Old Gas Station on Glenwood (across from HT)

[ManBearPig]

How about we just raze the entire Village and pitch Wal-Mart on a SuperCenter? They've got the money, it'll bring a lot of traffic, lots of people enjoy Wal-Mart's Everyday Low Prices^TM. And their money is bright, bright green.
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Jesus ken get a grip

[Cap'n Ken]

How about we just raze the entire Village and pitch Wal-Mart on a SuperCenter? They've got the money, it'll bring a lot of traffic, lots of people enjoy Wal-Mart's Everyday Low Prices^TM. And their money is bright, bright green.

Yes, Ken!  That's exactly what I was saying!  You nailed it!!  Absolutely black and white! Rip down the Village and put up a Wal-Mart!  It's uncanny how well you read me there!

 

Well, it's an amalgam - not just you with your "I'd love to see this restaurant I don't like open here!". I know you look at it as the most likely solution to a problem property, and you're right. I think things are actually pretty OK as they are - Midway, Holy Taco, Flatiron, 529, etc. etc. can really use the parking. And I'm never going to get excited about a chain restaurant in the Village. Chick-fil-A isn't really comparable (it's fast-food), but I don't think anybody wants one in the Village - just out on Moreland or something. Totally different.

I like that our Village doesn't have a Mellow Mushroom or a Five Guys or a Shane's Rib Shack or a Moe's or whatever. I'd rather not see us get any of those kinds of things.

[Cap'n Ken]

How about we just raze the entire Village and pitch Wal-Mart on a SuperCenter? They've got the money, it'll bring a lot of traffic, lots of people enjoy Wal-Mart's Everyday Low Prices^TM. And their money is bright, bright green.
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Jesus ken get a grip

Hey, I advocated for a Mellow Mushroom in ERD. You'll be fine.

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their money is just as green to me!

Tell that to the owners and staff at Grant Central.

@anthro, or to any of the small independent food businesses already splitting the customer base here.

I disagree with this being a component of the anti-MM sentiment. Let's put the issue of chain vs. indie aside for this post - that's not what I'm arguing about.

Yes, any new restaurant would be competition to current restaurants, but I am in favor of those kinds of pressures. That's the pressure that puts bad restaurants out of businesses and keeps them all honest. It's what allows me to say "i'll take my money elsewhere" and then take my money elsewhere, when I choose to do so, since it's my money and choice and variety ensures better products and services.

I'm not about to start being mad at businesses for coming in just because they will compete with current ones. And pizza is a broad and general enough pursuit, that "we already have one of those" doesn't really matter to me.

[anthro98]

How about we just raze the entire Village and pitch Wal-Mart on a SuperCenter? They've got the money, it'll bring a lot of traffic, lots of people enjoy Wal-Mart's Everyday Low Prices^TM. And their money is bright, bright green.

Yes, Ken!  That's exactly what I was saying!  You nailed it!!  Absolutely black and white! Rip down the Village and put up a Wal-Mart!  It's uncanny how well you read me there!

 
 

ditto for me.  i'm all for an all-corporate village.   

*cough*   NOT!

[Cap'n Ken]

How about we just raze the entire Village and pitch Wal-Mart on a SuperCenter? They've got the money, it'll bring a lot of traffic, lots of people enjoy Wal-Mart's Everyday Low Prices^TM. And their money is bright, bright green.

Yes, Ken!  That's exactly what I was saying!  You nailed it!!  Absolutely black and white! Rip down the Village and put up a Wal-Mart!  It's uncanny how well you read me there!

 
 

ditto for me.  i'm all for an all-corporate village.   

*cough*   NOT!

I hear the chain places have money that's quite green.

[anthro98]

yep. ya got me.

god i love how people can say whatever they want and nothing is ever twisted, warped and thrown back at them.  what a place!

[Cap'n Ken]

yep. ya got me.

god i love how people can say whatever they want and nothing is ever twisted, warped and thrown back at them.  what a place!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't you first advocate for "corporate dollars" saying how their money is as green as anybody's and then say you're not for a corporate village after I presented the extreme view of that based on your initial expressed desire to have such corporate businesses?

My point is you seem to be taking two sides of this issue. I'm illustrating that by echoing your own statements.

[anthro98]

and my point is that you clearly missed the point entirely.  i'm gonna introduce ya to a new term:  MIDDLE GROUND

i invite you to go back and re-read *ALL* of what i said before, and not just stop when you came to a point you could find contention with.

oh...and funny how i don't recall being the ONLY person to say that a chain in the village (as opposed to the whopping 200 feet away that all the fast food places are?) wouldn't be the end of the world.

[Cap'n Ken]

and my point is that you clearly missed the point entirely.  i'm gonna introduce ya to a new term:  MIDDLE GROUND

i invite you to go back and re-read *ALL* of what i said before, and not just stop when you came to a point you could find contention with.

oh...and funny how i don't recall being the ONLY person to say that a chain in the village (as opposed to the whopping 200 feet away that all the fast food places are?) wouldn't be the end of the world.

Funny how you're not only person I'm rebutting, even if you think you are.

Of course I was using hyperbole with the Wal-Mart thing to illustrate my point. I don't believe getting "corporate dollars" (which I think we recognize to be big companies / chains / etc. since most businesses have a corporate entity) into the Village would be a good thing. I don't think we'd be better served having a Gap or American Apparel or Mellow Mushroom or Five Guys or Smoothie King or whatever. While there might be short-term issues of ugly buildings or whatever solved by that, I think in the long run EAV will thrive as a little outpost of independent businesses.

Yes, we have a U.S. highway that's technically part of EAV where we can put whatever the hell sort of big commercial operation wants to come down here. That's great. But that should also serve as a buffer against those places coming in to what we might call Historic EAV. If Mellow Mushroom wants to go into some place on Moreland, I have no issue with it. Them in the Village proper, I don't like and will let you know that.

And, by the way, you said "corporate dollars might be a good thing", which is a far cry from "wouldn't be the end of the world". So, you see, that's what I was responding to.

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Mellow Mushroom!!!  Yay!!!  My parents will be thrilled!!!  A place where I can take them!!!

[Cap'n Ken]

Mellow Mushroom!!!  Yay!!!  My parents will be thrilled!!!  A place where I can take them!!!

OK, I want to read that as the most brilliant argument ever against Mellow Mushroom, but I'm not sure ... might you be serious?

[anthro98]

Mellow Mushroom!!!  Yay!!!  My parents will be thrilled!!!  A place where I can take them!!!

OK, I want to read that as the most brilliant argument ever against Mellow Mushroom, but I'm not sure ... might you be serious?

Ken--i might not have been the only person you THOUGHT you were responding to, but as the only person who you were quoting in those responses...kinda looked that way to the rest of us.

and she might not be kidding.  i know if i said it, i wouldn't be.  the only place my dad will go in the village is Grant Central--he's not an adventurous eater, and other places "scare" him.    my mom would be game for more, but dad would be the limiting factor.  old dogs. new tricks.  blah blah.

[Cap'n Ken]

Mellow Mushroom!!!  Yay!!!  My parents will be thrilled!!!  A place where I can take them!!!

OK, I want to read that as the most brilliant argument ever against Mellow Mushroom, but I'm not sure ... might you be serious?

Ken--i might not have been the only person you THOUGHT you were responding to, but as the only person who you were quoting in those responses...kinda looked that way to the rest of us.

and she might not be kidding.  i know if i said it, i wouldn't be.  the only place my dad will go in the village is Grant Central--he's not an adventurous eater, and other places "scare" him.    my mom would be game for more, but dad would be the limiting factor.  old dogs. new tricks.  blah blah.

Well, my Wal-Mart response purposefully brought in elements of all the arguments made by all those making them. Of course my response to your follow-up post was directed back to you - it was following up on your statements.

I imagine she's not kidding. But you have to admit that's a great argument against it.

The whole parents thing - yeah, can be tricky.

[anthro98]

Mellow Mushroom!!!  Yay!!!  My parents will be thrilled!!!  A place where I can take them!!!

OK, I want to read that as the most brilliant argument ever against Mellow Mushroom, but I'm not sure ... might you be serious?

Ken--i might not have been the only person you THOUGHT you were responding to, but as the only person who you were quoting in those responses...kinda looked that way to the rest of us.

and she might not be kidding.  i know if i said it, i wouldn't be.  the only place my dad will go in the village is Grant Central--he's not an adventurous eater, and other places "scare" him.    my mom would be game for more, but dad would be the limiting factor.  old dogs. new tricks.  blah blah.

Well, my Wal-Mart response purposefully brought in elements of all the arguments made by all those making them. Of course my response to your follow-up post was directed back to you - it was following up on your statements.

I imagine she's not kidding. But you have to admit that's a great argument against it.

The whole parents thing - yeah, can be tricky.

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perhaps.  but snark and sarcasm aside, there's something to be said for being able to still be hospitable and have somewhere  amenable enough to be able to feed even the biggest fussbudget visitors we might have come our way.  besides somewhere with a drive thru.  feel i must remain devil's advocate on this one.  if someone who would otherwise be disinclined to venture to EAV takes the time and effort to come visit (or in the case of my father recently, and helping me move), the least i can do is take him somewhere he would like to, and be comfortable eating.  if one chain restaurant helps make that happen, i don't really see the harm and how it undermines the rest of the vibe or stability of the village.  we're talking a single restaurant, not a megastore.   will we have a higher restaurant (and esp, pizza) saturation?  sure.  but i think it can take it.

however.  all moot.  we don't even know for sure if that IS what is going in at that location, so perhaps we can all take a chill til we do.