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College Football Open Thread 2011
« on: March 30, 2011, 10:03 am »
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2011, 11:25 am »
Might as well re-start it off with a bang.
http://chip-patterson.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/24156338/28142828
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Could be bad. Could be BS. Lots of current/recent players calling BS on twitter.

Should be pointed out that, of the 4, McClover is the only one who ever saw the field. Ramsey had a particularly nasty breakup w/ the former staff.

That's about all I've got in the fingers-in-my-ears-yelling-"I CAN'T HEAR YOU! I CAN'T HEAR YOU!" department. Now, back to   ***
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2011, 11:27 am »
I guess the Tigers can buy another title this year.
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2011, 04:13 pm »
Stanley who?  Oh yeah, "the quarterback lover" or something like that.  I can go ahead and tell you, if anyone on any football team got a "bookbag full of money", A LOT of other people (players, friends, family) would know.  What do you think, he would set up some off-shore IRAs or something?  No.  He would blow that shit in a month.  And many, many, many people would know....and invariably, someone would tell.

Hell, Cam's dad was asking for money and it came back on him. 

And McClover looks like a half-man, half-sheep dog (yeah, google his photo  8D)
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2011, 05:02 pm »
I hear that most bury their bookbags full of cash in the backyard and slowly spend it..say on things like a Motorola Xoom Tablet.
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2011, 06:46 pm »
Stanley who?  Oh yeah, "the quarterback lover" or something like that.  I can go ahead and tell you, if anyone on any football team got a "bookbag full of money", A LOT of other people (players, friends, family) would know.  What do you think, he would set up some off-shore IRAs or something?  No.  He would blow that shit in a month.  And many, many, many people would know....and invariably, someone would tell.

Hell, Cam's dad was asking for money and it came back on him. 

And McClover looks like a half-man, half-sheep dog (yeah, google his photo  8D)

I heard the booksack full of cash was to buy a car. A fairly shitty car if $7K is correct.

The joke of pieces like this is whatever misdeeds are told by Athlete A from Big University B are likely very similar to things experienced by Athlete C at Big University D. It's like "violations" such as A.J. Green's jersey sale - who gets caught does not represent who all is doing it. Fans of rival teams will enjoy the pain, but everybody knows no school is much different than any other.
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2011, 10:52 pm »
Stanley who?  Oh yeah, "the quarterback lover" or something like that.  I can go ahead and tell you, if anyone on any football team got a "bookbag full of money", A LOT of other people (players, friends, family) would know.  What do you think, he would set up some off-shore IRAs or something?  No.  He would blow that shit in a month.  And many, many, many people would know....and invariably, someone would tell.

Hell, Cam's dad was asking for money and it came back on him. 

And McClover looks like a half-man, half-sheep dog (yeah, google his photo  8D)

I heard the booksack full of cash was to buy a car. A fairly shitty car if $7K is correct.

The joke of pieces like this is whatever misdeeds are told by Athlete A from Big University B are likely very similar to things experienced by Athlete C at Big University D. It's like "violations" such as A.J. Green's jersey sale - who gets caught does not represent who all is doing it. Fans of rival teams will enjoy the pain, but everybody knows no school is much different than any other.

Hey - speaking of!

Willie Lyles asked Texas A&M for $80K

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Willie Lyles, who is Texas-based football trainer who is under NCAA investigation after receiving $25,000 from Oregon, told Texas A&M it had to "beat" $80,000 if it wanted to sign star recruit Patrick Peterson in 2007, a former Texas A&M coach told ESPN on Wednesday.

Van Malone, the former defensive secondary coach at Texas A&M, told ESPN that Lyles phoned him in 2007 after Peterson had visited the College Station campus.

"A few days after the kid's visit, Will calls and says, 'If you want this kid, there are other schools that want this kids as well. They're willing to pay a certain amount of money, around the $80,000 mark,'" Malone said. "He said that was something we were going to have to beat as a university to be able to obtain the services of this kid."

Peterson originally committed to the University of Miami but ended up signing with LSU. Now a junior, he has declared for the NFL draft and is the No. 1 player on ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper's Big Board.

I guess the implication is that Lyles would have gotten a payday to bring Peterson to a school. Should be easy to find out if LSU made some big payment to him back in 2007.
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2011, 09:39 am »
Hey - speaking of!

Willie Lyles asked Texas A&M for $80K

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Willie Lyles, who is Texas-based football trainer who is under NCAA investigation after receiving $25,000 from Oregon, told Texas A&M it had to "beat" $80,000 if it wanted to sign star recruit Patrick Peterson in 2007, a former Texas A&M coach told ESPN on Wednesday.

Van Malone, the former defensive secondary coach at Texas A&M, told ESPN that Lyles phoned him in 2007 after Peterson had visited the College Station campus.

"A few days after the kid's visit, Will calls and says, 'If you want this kid, there are other schools that want this kids as well. They're willing to pay a certain amount of money, around the $80,000 mark,'" Malone said. "He said that was something we were going to have to beat as a university to be able to obtain the services of this kid."

Peterson originally committed to the University of Miami but ended up signing with LSU. Now a junior, he has declared for the NFL draft and is the No. 1 player on ESPN draft guru Mel Kiper's Big Board.

I guess the implication is that Lyles would have gotten a payday to bring Peterson to a school. Should be easy to find out if LSU made some big payment to him back in 2007.

Which begs the question: what's Van Malone ("the former defensive secondary coach at Texas A&M") got going on these days?

No doubt this guy Lyles is a sleazebag, but now seems a convenient time for 4 yr old allegations to suddenly come to light.
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2011, 06:59 am »
What bothers me about the report on HBO is they only show one side.  From my understanding, there were several former football players they interviewed who said they weren't paid, but they didn't show those interviews.  This seems to me to be one sided reporting.  Although I didn't graduate with a jounalism degree, I took several courses in the field and I was taught you should be balanced and show both sides of a story...if you have both sides, if not dig to find the other story...there usually always is two sides. 

I love Auburn and hope they find the program is clean, but I know because of our past recruiting sins (and we're not the only SEC school) people automatically think if something is said about Auburn's recruiting it must be true...even though the AD and head couch has changed (a couple of times) since those times.  I'll continue to believe in Auburn and if it comes out we cheated, I feel like we should be punished accordingly...I personally don't want to win by cheating.  Victory is much sweeter when you earn it.  It just feels like a lot of people are on a witch hunt for Auburn.  I know, I know...we did it in the past, but can't a team redeem itself?  My hope is yes.  I just feel like the players (if you want to call some of them that) in the HBO report have an axe to grind.  Why come out now after all these years?  And as Tank said...people would talk if this really happened.  If I was a player and I saw another player getting money, I would probably say...hey, where's mine?  I'm tired of eating P and B sandwiches.  I want money too!  Being a poor college student is not fun, but it taught me about character and how to survive on very little.  One of the players who said he got money for a car...well his teammate (might have been his roommate) said he was lying.  He got the money to buy the car from his pell grant...something about that seems illegal to me though.  Maybe the feds should come after him for fraud.

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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2011, 09:06 am »
One of the players who said he got money for a car...well his teammate (might have been his roommate) said he was lying.  He got the money to buy the car from his pell grant...something about that seems illegal to me though.  Maybe the feds should come after him for fraud.
Pretty sure Pell Grants can be used for any expense in college, be it food, housing, or transportation. If not, feds might be coming after me, as well.
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2011, 09:16 am »
One of the players who said he got money for a car...well his teammate (might have been his roommate) said he was lying.  He got the money to buy the car from his pell grant...something about that seems illegal to me though.  Maybe the feds should come after him for fraud.
Pretty sure Pell Grants can be used for any expense in college, be it food, housing, or transportation. If not, feds might be coming after me, as well.

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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2011, 03:47 pm »
One guy in my signing class was getting a Pell Grant our freshman year because his father, who built million dollar houses in FL, didn't build any the year before or something like that.  F#cking bullsh1t.  >:(
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2011, 05:53 pm »
My Pell Grant back in the early 80s was for $500 a quarter (we used that system back then! :))  My tuition was $360 a quarter.  What a bargain a college education was back then.  Had enough to pay my tution and buy most of my books.  Had to work full time for the other stuff like rent, beer, cigs, and oh yea - groceries.  No car...couldn't afford it.  But Auburn was so small I really didn't need it. 
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2011, 06:00 pm »
My Pell Grant back in the early 80s was for $500 a quarter (we used that system back then! :))  My tuition was $360 a quarter.  What a bargain a college education was back then.  Had enough to pay my tution and buy most of my books.  Had to work full time for the other stuff like rent, beer, cigs, and oh yea - groceries.  No car...couldn't afford it.  But Auburn was so small I really didn't need it.

Yeah, if I remember correctly my Pell was something like $1,800 a semester in the mid-late-80s and tuition was something like $1,200. I always worked in college and always lived off campus on the cheap, so the extra Pell money was a nice bonus. Only toward the end of my "studies" did the grant/tuition equation flip.
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Re: College Football Open Thread - 2011 - take 2
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2011, 09:27 am »
Get ready for 6 weeks of non-AQ/FCS dominoes falling.

Villanova announces their decision this Tuesday on joining the Big East (presumably a yes since they took 7 months). That would mean they leave CAA Football. UMass (also CAA) is sitting around waiting for Nova to announce. Presumably they are gone to the MAC soon after. Most likely Maine and New Hampshire leave because they would be left with no other northern schools in CAA Football. To add a little spice the Sun Belt (not)announced via the Miami Herald this week that they are looking for an 11th football member and that they have one school at the top of their list. The math all adds up to La Tech from the WAC. If it is then WAC Football is toast or at least lightly toasted. The Sun Belt meeting is the last week of May.
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