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Falcons=Pathetic
« on: January 08, 2012, 11:45 pm »
Whatta dismal showing. Some heads need to roll come Monday morning in Flowery branch starting with Mike Mularkey...

Pay note to the last part of the article...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-cole_new_york_giants_defensive_line_falcons_010812

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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2012, 08:17 am »
Disappointing but not surprising. 
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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2012, 09:39 am »
I really hope Mularkey gets hired away, because that guy sucks.
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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2012, 10:50 am »
The biggest indictment of Mularkey - to my mind - is the stalling of Ryan's development.  I think the unimaginative play calling has not challenged Ryan enough to help him grow like he ought to be.

And while I like Turner a lot, I think he's starting to age out of being an every-down back.

Defensively I think we exceeded expectations this season, esp. vs. the run, bu I have to think the two items atop the off-season shopping list are O-line and defensive secondary.

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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2012, 11:02 am »
The biggest indictment of Mularkey - to my mind - is the stalling of Ryan's development.  I think the unimaginative play calling has not challenged Ryan enough to help him grow like he ought to be.

And while I like Turner a lot, I think he's starting to age out of being an every-down back.

Defensively I think we exceeded expectations this season, esp. vs. the run, bu I have to think the two items atop the off-season shopping list are O-line and defensive secondary.

The times I've seen them move the ball the best all year are when Ryan's calling his own plays out of the no-huddle. Ditto yesterday. Then Mularkey starts calling more doomed off-tackle dives and they 3 and out. Over and over and over.
Concur on them needing an O-line, most importantly. Because, wow, theirs is not good.
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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2012, 11:34 am »
i thought the point of giving away all of those draft picks for Julio was so we could have a more explosive offense. yesterdays play calling was way too safe. Mularky needs to go and honestly i would mind seeing Vangorder and Dimitroff go. Dimitroff has missed on tons of draft picks and hasn't brought in much talent on the defense. even though Vangorder doesn't have much talent to work with i really haven't seen anyone other than Grimes improve much over the past few years, i've never been a fan of the bend don't break defensive style, and we have never been able to stop anyone on 3rd downs (29th, 22nd, 32nd past 3 seasons in the NFL).

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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2012, 11:51 am »
not to mention the timidness and poor clock management at the close of the first half.  RIP two unused timeouts.

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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2012, 11:56 am »
not to mention the timidness and poor clock management at the close of the first half.  RIP two unused timeouts.

no kidding and i predicted it. that's part of the problem is the offense and playcalling is too predictable.

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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2012, 11:57 am »
i thought the point of giving away all of those draft picks for Julio was so we could have a more explosive offense. yesterdays play calling was way too safe. Mularky needs to go and honestly i would mind seeing Vangorder and Dimitroff go. Dimitroff has missed on tons of draft picks and hasn't brought in much talent on the defense. even though Vangorder doesn't have much talent to work with i really haven't seen anyone other than Grimes improve much over the past few years, i've never been a fan of the bend don't break defensive style, and we have never been able to stop anyone on 3rd downs (29th, 22nd, 32nd past 3 seasons in the NFL).

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Isn't Dimitroff pretty much why they have a good team at this point? Peria Jerry and Sam Baker were blown pics, imo, but overall, I thought he has done fairly well.
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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2012, 12:03 pm »
i thought the point of giving away all of those draft picks for Julio was so we could have a more explosive offense. yesterdays play calling was way too safe. Mularky needs to go and honestly i would mind seeing Vangorder and Dimitroff go. Dimitroff has missed on tons of draft picks and hasn't brought in much talent on the defense. even though Vangorder doesn't have much talent to work with i really haven't seen anyone other than Grimes improve much over the past few years, i've never been a fan of the bend don't break defensive style, and we have never been able to stop anyone on 3rd downs (29th, 22nd, 32nd past 3 seasons in the NFL).

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Isn't Dimitroff pretty much why they have a good team at this point? Peria Jerry and Sam Baker were blown pics, imo, but overall, I thought he has done fairly well.

i would have to say the whole 2009 draft was a bust: here's their draft history. i have to go back to work, but tell me how many picks you think turned out well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanta_Falcons_draft_history

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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2012, 01:24 pm »
I figured as much being the Falcons.

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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2012, 01:39 pm »
2010 wasn't a whole lot of anything either. Was Sean Witherspoon even in the game? I don't recall hearing his name once. Hawley and Franks....not much production there. Overall the defense sucks.

I was screaming "timeout" at the end of the 2nd quarter, the whole time they allowed almost a minute to run off the clock.Troy Aikman was saying it too..."why are they not calling timeout?" Because we have a very ineffective offensive coaching staff. Doubt Mularkey will get an offer as head coach after that game. Who else wants a 4th and inches QB sneak with your best running back on the bench, and you need a field goal with one of the most solid kickers....who never got in the game.

Just in case anyone hasn't figured it out....1st and ten, it's Turner up the missle. Any down and short-Turner up the middle. 4th and short-QB sneak. Never once this year have the Falcons varied from this formula.

Don't re-sign Turner, unload Dropsie White for even a 3rd round pick. Peria Jerry...bust, unload. Chris Owens has shown some spark the last half of the season, so a possible "give him one more try".

With no picks in the 1st and 4th rounds, we only get a pick starting around 50-something. Trading White would possibly get us up into the mid 2nd round, I would hope. Roddy's to busy with his constantly expanding family, and the regular court appearances regarding them. Trade him to the Rams for a 2nd or 3rd round pick (he's not worth a 1st round).

Start looking to smaller schools for the next Wes Welker. Not signing Turner will free up cap money. Look for a receiver with the abbility to catch a pass close to him....forget "explosive"....the Falcons need to get the 7-12 yard passes down first. Throwing 35-50 yards at a time is great but most games are won on moving the chains, eating the clock and catching balls that are thrown to you.

Get a new OC. That should be happeneing right now-firing Mike Mularkey, and really they could let VanGorder go as well. a pahrase you never hear in a Falcons game..."VanGorder is dialing up the blitz", or the "Falcons use a  lot of exotic blitz packages". Those terms are for teams like the Patriots, Texans, Packers and Saints. Even the Giants use more blitzes...because our secondary is so weak, we have to play zone all game. The Falcons looked like they are still using the playbook from the Jerry Glanville era. Four and five WR sets are the norm now...we send out Julio, Dropsie, the aging "future hall of famer" Tony Gonzalez, and then wonder why the receivers are all double covered. we can't use 2 TE sets because the blocking is so bad. And apparently Mularkey just hates screen passes....you know those short little throws to the back or TE, after allowing the defense to get inside the line? The ones the Saints use to Sproles against us that get 12-20 yards at a time?

I forget which player it was, but he called the Falcons "one of the most predictable teams in NFL history". And it showed yesterday....

And speaking of blowing coverage-goodbye Dunta Robinson. This guy missed his assignments so much, he accounts for pretty much half the Giants score. Teams now throw at him all day, knowing he can't adjust fast enough, and he's not smart enough to read the routes. Waste of money.

Rebuild the offensive line. Get a line that can hold more than 3 seconds. Then, if Ryan can't get the ball to anyone, maybe it's time to look at getting a new QB. I like Ryan, but his career has really taken a downturn since the playoff/Packer loss last year. Once he gets behind, he gets panicky in the pocket. Sadly, Tim Tebow was more poised in the pocket, even when it was collapsing yesterday, than Ryan did.

All in all....Falcons need a major overhaul. Less flashy commercials with Sam Jackson ("what do falcons do? Falcons F#$k up!") and concentrate on getting a team that has the will to win, the heart and drive to be winners.

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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2012, 05:33 pm »
YES, thank you Vangorder. i now give Mularkey 3 days before he's gone.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7443180/brian-vangorder-atlanta-falcons-named-auburn-tigers-defensive-coordinator

how do you get spanked by Green Bay last year and the only piece you add on defense is Ray Edwards and expect to compete for a spot in the Super Bowl. i knew this season would suck and don't get me started on that Dunta Robinson signing.

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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2012, 05:37 pm »
The word Auburn and phrase "blitz packages" won't in the same sentence anymore, unless used in conjunction with "does not use".

Ray Edwards....he really should rebate some money to the team. And please let's trade Dunta Robinson for....anything they can get for him.

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Re: Falcons=Pathetic
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2012, 07:27 pm »
You don't unload White.  That is just stoopid.  I know he has some drops, but talk to any fan of a team with a top ten receiver, and they will tell you there guy drops it all the time.  Calvin Johnson, Brandon Marshall, even Terrell Owens back in the day drop it a lot.  It is just a fact that great receivers have drops.  Roddy has the second most receptions in the league this year.  You don't trade that for a freaking third rounder.  Keep him and Julio, and get rid of everyone else.  I would be fine with that.